I’d like to propose some updates on the homepage of xwiki.org (I added a visual at the end for seeing where the changes would be applied). The proposed updates are as it follows:
Instead of “Open Source Enterprise” the correct way of writing it is “Open-Source Enterprise”
Instead of “Developed for more than 10 years” it should be “20 years”.
The logos section could be refreshed as EMC2, Chronopost, Meetic, Capgemini are not XWiki SAS clients anymore and we have no idea if they even continue using XWiki at this point. Also, DCNS transformed into Naval Group and refreshed their logo. My proposal for the new logos are:
A proposal complementary for the one above (no. 3) is to have hyperlinks on each of the logos with their respective references in xwiki.org. Whoever would like to read more about a company’s usage of XWiki, can simply click on the logo. Some of those company names are widely known, and it can be beneficial to make the information easily accessible on the homepage.
We could add more testimonials from each of the references listed in 2025 in the references section.
At the bottom, before the footer, the numbers in the section could be updated as it follows:
20 years of experience
keep the licensing as it is
700+ extensions
8000 active installations
800+ teams use XWiki (instead of total number of commits; this number is taken from the XWiki SAS website, and it could be interesting to show how many organizations use XWiki professionally)
42 supported languages (instead of yearly installations; I find this information relevant for a software as that impacts adoption)
Let me know your thoughts and if there’s anything else you think should be updated.
Where are you extracting this figure from?
When looking at XWiki Platform/XWiki Core Resources @ Weblate XWiki.org (which is the biggest translation file in the platform) you can see that not all languages are fully translated, and I’m not sure it’s accurate to say that e.g. Bulgarian is supported with 27% of translations.
So I would use the link I provided and draw a line at 50% of translations to say it’s supported, it leaves us with 27 languages.
No the script is probably good, we have translations files for 40 languages. But IMO it doesn’t mean XWiki supports properly 40 languages: as I said if you have a few translations in a given language it doesn’t make that language supported, even if you have a translation file.
Hence my proposal to draw a line at 50% of translations keys.
Thank you @surli ! I took the number from Languages @ Weblate XWiki.org but I didn’t think to check specifically for the core resources page. I see in the page you provided 39 languages instead of 40, like in the documentation. I’m not sure what is the correct number here.
We can word the statistic in a few ways:
40 languages available (if they are 40) or
40 languages partially & fully supported (if that’s not too long); a variation of this could be 40 languages (partial/full support)
Personally I don’t see the need to provide this information especially since there are very few languages that are production level (ie that have 100% of translations which is the only thing that matters to me). Advertising not full translations can only be negative to me as users counting on this will be disappointed.
-1 as I have no idea how to compute this number and what’s the definition of a team and how it differentiates from an active instance.
+1 to remove yearly installation number since we have stopped computing this number years ago as we can’t (docker installs, debian installs, manual installs, etc).
The number was computed this way, as an estimation (because real numbers, like yearly installations, are difficult to actually know, but we can have an approximation):
We know from the sales at XWiki SAS that we’ve had at least 500 paying clients across time (these days it’s closer to 600 but let’s keep the number round).
Many of these clients use XWiki for multiple departments or for the whole company, so the number quickly grows
If we want to be cautious with the number, we can say that 250 companies use it for only 1 team and 250 use it for minimum 2 teams > 750. We rounded up the number to 800 as we’re confident there are at least 800 teams in total using XWiki.
If the number doesn’t feel credible enough, an option could be to say:
500 business clients
Also you forgot to mention the commits which I’d like to keep and bump to 140K+.
I misunderstood that as not being needed. We can definitely keep it and not put the multilingual support.
This is just pure guessing (and not an easy number to get/update)
But more importantly, we’re talking about xwiki.org here, and relying on a sponsoring company to give us these figures doesn’t make sense to me (it’s also completely wrong since the majority of users are not clients of that company).
In addition mentioning business clients doesn’t make sense to me for lots of reasons:
We’re again on xwiki.org and users are more interesting than clients
This is only XWiki SAS clients. What about other companies offering services on top of XWiki? For ex we know that there are companies offering hosting and maybe they have 1000 hosting clients using XWiki?
A client doesn’t mean much. It could be someone having a license for an extension, someone having a cloud subscription, someone for whom XWiki SAS is doing consulting or services, etc.
PS: When you use We in your messages as it’s not always obvious what you’re referring to. Often it’s best to use I or replace We by the group name (XWiki SAS, the XWiki.org community, the XWiki core developers, etc) when it can be ambiguous.
Examples:
[…]are not XWiki SAS clients anymore and we have no idea if they even continue using XWiki
I assume the we is XWiki SAS here?
We could add more testimonials from each of the references listed in 2025 in the references section.
I’m not sure who the We is here. I assume it’s you and should be I, right? Or you’re asking the XWiki community at large to do that?
So since there are only individuals in the community (no companies) wishing to do things, it’s usually best to post proposals saying that you’d like to do this and that and ask for agreement.
Fair points! Thank you for your perspective. I won’t add the number of clients from XWiki SAS. The statistics a the end of the page could 5 instead of 6.
Also, I’m Dorina. Adina did not make an account in my name.
