Strange automatic Weekly notifications

Context: Wiki hosted on the community farm myxwiki.org

Hi all,

I’m receiving each week the following automatic notification for changes I’ve not done to my “personal notification settings pages”:

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Is it a bug or just a wrong setup on myxwiki.org (global) or only on my wiki?

Thanks for your help,

This is because these pages contain the last fire date for the scheduler jobs (as a xproperty) and it’s modified with the defined user, i.e. you (by default).

FTM, you could decide to unwatch these scheduler pages I guess.

Another option is to change the user used to send the notifications. See https://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Scheduler%20Application#HAdvanced

Note: I haven’t checked the code to see if this job context user is also the user used to edit the fire date or not. To be tested.

@vmassol thanks for your reply :+1:.

Unfortunately I do not understand any of your explanation nor suggestion to change this behavior :disappointed_relieved::

  • What is the interest to change the user which sends the notifications? The notification will still be sent but just by an other user …
  • The question I’m asking myself is: what’s the purpose of the schedule job to change the JobClass(0) from “None” to “Normal” on 4 pages each week?
  • Furthermore I’m not able to unsubscribe from theses pages: for instance going to https://tutos.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mail/MailResender
  1. the “bell icon” is greyed => telling user he won’t be warned on changes
  2. when clicking on the bell to force an “un-subscription” => an endless loader is displayed like shown in the below screen shot …
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Waiting for your advices,

I’ve now checked the code and the job context user is not used to update the job doc. It’s the last author of that doc that is used. And yes if you watch this page it doesn’t matter who makes changes to it, you’ll still get the notifications :wink: (so forget this idea!).

Good question. This is the status of the job but normally, once a job is scheduled, it should moved from None to Normal and not change afterwards. Something to debug.

What changes do you get for the Notification Email Daily Sender job?

Seems like a bug of myxwiki.org. To be debugged too. Note that I’m not allowed to view https://tutos.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mail/MailResender

Someone should try locally on XS to see if the problem can be reproduced.

Hello xrichard,

there is a particular behaviour of the notifications that is a little less intuitive than it should, which is that when you haven’t subscribed to any page in your wiki, the system sends notifications for all changes on the wiki. There is a discussion about changing this behaviour, see https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-19070 and related.
As Vincent mentioned, the changes on these pages are somewhat technical changes, so indeed, if you receive notifications for all changes they would be confusing.
Speaking of technical changes, did you, by any chance, activate the display of hidden pages in your user profile? This could explain why you’re seeing pages like these, which are technical and thus should be hidden…

Now, if you receive notifications for pages that you don’t know about, you may be in this ‘default’ case, when you’re not subscribed to anything and thus subscribed to everything. You should see what you’re subscribed to in your used profile, in the notifications section, in the “Custom filters” section - if it’s empty than you have no subscription and you are in the case of “not subscribed to anything means subscribed to everything”.

To get rid of these unwanted things, you have 2 choices as Vincent mentioned:

  • either you blacklist (exclude) the 3 bothering pages
  • either you subscribe explicitly to the content you want to receive notifications for.

I hope this helps, don’t hesitate,
Anca