UX for changing document rights

I don’t understand the screenshot. It says “required rights” (and “This pages requires the following rights”) and then below “edit rights”. Required rights for what? For view? for edit? for delete? for … ?

Obviously you don’t need edit rights to view a page for example.

For macros, there’s a proposal at Add concept of required permissions for Macros to not show macros for which you don’t have the rights. The intent is to increase usability by not overflowing the user with concepts or knowledge that he/she doesn’t have (like proposing scripting macros when you don’t have scripting rights because you’re a standard user supposed to only add content in your wiki for ex).

I still believe that we need to show users who are not admins why they cannot edit a page for example, at least advanced users.

Ofc we need an admin page to set and view rights and inherited rights globally. Asking for computing the rights of a given user could also be in the admin UI but I think being in an extradoc tab is interesting for advanced users too.

Re your proposed UI based on Caty’s, I haven’t evaluated it, it’s been discussed a lot in the past and it’s a complex topic to be sure to represent the computed rights properly (might not even be possible and might need a new rights store or get them from the security cache or …). I’ll let others more qualified than me start the discussion on this.

It seems this thread is mixing the doc rights with the required rights. I still don’t understand at this stage if they’re the same thing or not.

Thx